Hello Doc,
I believe this will likely be so much lighter than a number of letters that you simply obtain, and it’s maybe just a little humorous, nevertheless it’s an issue none the much less, and I’m just a little frightened that there’s some problematic baggage in my mind that I’d wish to unpack after which throw on a bonfire.
Mainly, I’m a cis straightish man, however on an evening out with mates not too long ago considered one of them let slip that there’s a little bit of a joke that I costume like a stereotypical lesbian.
I really discovered the remark fairly humorous, know that it wouldn’t have come from a spot of cruelty and I don’t completely disagree with it. They picture searched “stereotypical lesbian outfit” and nicely, I did a double-take on a few footage considering they have been me. I’ve all the time considered my typical costume sense as form of grunge-meets-redneck and no different connotations ever actually struck me. I’m socially adroit sufficient to be able to dressing for the event, however let’s say a it’s an evening the place I am going for a beer or two and watch some stay music, then yeah, I’ll possible be sporting a flannel shirt, denims, pockets chain and trucker cap. Coupled with my piercings and haircut, that are fairly androgynously coded, I get it. I play a sport that’s usually related to queer ladies and my Spotify listing isn’t brief on the likes of Sleater-Kinney or Bikini Kill within the context of me having fun with alternative-rock extra usually. It’s not like Nirvana and Fugazi don’t function closely too. I’ve learn The Bell Jar, however solely as a result of good literature is nice literature. I’ve learn Hemmingway too.
I’d wish to level out at this juncture that stereotypes are simply that: stereotypes, however they do often have a foundation in patterns. You may’t all the time inform one thing about somebody simply by how they costume, however I assume some individuals do try to talk issues with their garments.
When the hangover pale, a few questions caught with me.
The primary is: Am I giving off a bizarre vibe? I don’t assume so, I’ve loads of ladies as mates, a few of whom have laughed too and agreed after I’ve talked about this, as does my companion. But it surely does fear me that I come throughout as a type of dudes who tries to place himself as “one of the good ones”. I don’t assume the rest in my behaviour means that, nevertheless it worries me I could be perceived that means only for making an attempt to stay in a means I get pleasure from. Moreover, if not that, am I negating or diluting my very own attraction? I’m fortunately with somebody, they usually say they like how I costume, however I do surprise about how I’m perceived.
The second is extra advanced. I really form of do really feel like I’m performing in a type of drag socially. I used to be a misfit as a youngster and I used to be actually uncomfortable with the laddish tradition (I’m from the UK, so assume soccer, Oasis and boorish jokes) that surrounded me. Teams of men make me nervous. So, dressing like I do appears like I’m type of enjoying the a part of a man fairly than really being one. I’ve loads of male mates too, however do discover it laborious to attach with guys who’re stereotypically masculine of their attitudes and pursuits. I don’t assume I really feel my gender strongly, however that’s maybe a luxurious of being safe in it?
What do I do, Doc? Do I burn my and-shirts and sneakers and costume in a Soccer shirt and chinos after I costume casually? Minimize my hair and solely take heed to Metallica? I child, however I’m unsure what my query is completely, simply that I’m form of in a little bit of a spin.
Yours,
Jewel Has Some Nice Stuff, Truly
I believe it says one thing about my age that every part you describe about the way you costume sounds far more such as you’re from the mid-90s or doing upcountry degen cosplay fairly than dressing like a stereotypical lesbian. Throw in a beat-to-shit pickup and a pack of American Spirits and a bigmouth of Mickey’s and also you’d be a lot of the means there.
(Granted, the overlap on this specific Venn Diagram may be very, very massive.)
Extra to the purpose although: I believe you’re severely overthinking what was an off-hand and never terribly critical remark by a good friend, and I believe you’re additionally mistaking the signifiers that include your model. The look you describe is “stereotypical” for lesbians as a result of it’s a really working class look, which tends to code as a really butch look. The entire concept behind “stereotypical lesbian” relies on the concept lesbians eschew a number of femme presentation – brief hair, extra masculine model of costume and conduct, no make-up and so forth. That’s: the stereotype for “lesbian” that you simply’re working from are about ladies who costume and look extra like males than like ladies. So, to the extent that your presentation is sending off a bizarre vibe, it’s solely a bizarre vibe in that you simply’re seeing what’s ostensibly male-coded clothes and elegance being mirrored again at you.
(I’d additionally level out that what you’re describing as ‘androgynously coded’ ismasculine; a major of what we have a tendency to contemplate ‘androgynous’ is often “male, but skinny/soft”. Total PhD dissertations can and have been written about this…)
I fairly strongly doubt that anybody who seems to be at you thinks that you simply’re making an attempt to place your self as “one of the good ones”, a lot as considering that perhaps you watched one too many documentaries in regards to the Seattle grunge scene or that you simply’re the product of being on the tail finish of the 30-year nostalgia cycle. Is it bizarre? Enh, I’ve seen far weirder on a mean Tuesday. Nothing about your look would get you greater than a passing look or make you stand out at any of the native dive bars.
Now you’re right in that garments are an outward expression of ourselves. The garments we select are a means of speaking who we’re to the individuals round us. It usually provides a shorthand as to who we’re as individuals and what we’re about. We put on our affiliations and values on our shirtsleeves – actually. Somebody who’s sporting an Austin FC or Manchester United shirt is signaling tribal affiliation, as a lot as somebody sporting designer labels. Even when somebody doesn’t put a lot thought into their model and presentation, that also conveys that means and message – on this case, that they don’t care that a lot about their presentation. It’s a part of why “dressed like a tornado hit their closet” has lengthy been short-hand for absent-minded genius/artistic kind; presumably they’ve extra urgent issues to give attention to than whether or not their belt goes with their footwear, their shirt and trousers are freshly pressed and so forth. So the way in which you costume does ship a message about you, and it’s price asking if that message matches with who you’re as an individual.
But it surely’s the ‘who you are as a person’ half that’s far more essential. You contact on one thing in your letter that I don’t assume you understand: a number of conventional concepts about gender is simply efficiency. Being a cis man doesn’t imply that you simply have been born with a love of huge boobs and crude jokes any greater than being a cis girl means they have been born with an inherent love of the colour pink (which, by the way, was thought of a masculine colour) and cosmetics. Generally we like these issues they usually line up with our gender, however typically we like these issues regardless of or regardless how they line up with our gender. A few of it might be nature, however a hell of much more of it’s nurture, and the “nature” side has extra to do with character than chromosomal pairings. A few of it may be formed, even inspired by societal expectations and stress, however once more: that’s not an indication of something inherent to your gender or hormones.
While you rattle off all of the methods you’re “less masculine” or giving “androgynous” vibes, you’re rattling off issues which might be gendered by affiliation, however aren’t inherently gendered in and of themselves. Bikini Kill and Sleater-Kinney might attraction extra strongly to a selected demographic, however that doesn’t imply that it’s solely for ladies, any greater than Oasis is solely for males. Liking soccer and beer is related to masculinity, however loads of ladies, even very female ladies love each. Your gender isn’t outlined by your Spotify playlist any greater than it’s outlined by your haircut, the books you learn or the garments you put on – regardless of what number of conservatives scream about it. Your gender is outlined by you – not what’s in your pants or in your genes however by what’s in your head; every part else comes from that.
Do you want issues which might be extra female-coded? Okay… that simply makes you somebody who likes these issues. There’s no spreadsheet retaining observe of your man-points and woman-points. There’s no tipping level the place, for those who cross past 50% of masculine or female coded pursuits, you’ve decreased your inherent gender identification. It’s simply what speaks to you.
You have got a tough time connecting with “stereotypically” or “traditionally” masculine males, however is that since you’re not as manly, or since you merely don’t have a lot in frequent with them? There’s a distinction between “I don’t connect with these people because I’m not ‘enough’ of a man” and “I don’t connect with these people because I’m not into what they’re into and I find the way they behave to be off-putting”. Not liking loud, aggressive or rambunctious conduct doesn’t imply you’re not manly sufficient any greater than being quiet, empathetic or submissive makes you a girl. It’s simply who you’re.
Are you a person? Then no matter you do is “man shit”. If I take up knitting, that makes knitting manly. When my feminine mates choose up a hammer and a drill to place up some cabinets, that’s female, as a result of it’s a girl doing it. Don’t like lad mags and boner-jam films? Okay… however you don’t must be a person to love these any greater than being a person makes you want them. Some people dig ‘em, some folks think they’re silly; the quantity of affect it has in your inherent gender is fuck-all.
You ask what to do, however actually, for those who’re pleased with who you’re, there’s nothing to do. There’s nothing fallacious with you and there’s nothing that should change. Do the stuff you point out restrict your attraction? Certain… to a sure kind of particular person. However that’s going to be true of anybody; there’s no such factor as common attraction. Some individuals are drawn to extra “traditional” concepts of masculinity and others are delay by it. Plenty of individuals are drawn to softer dudes, extra erudite or refined or restrained dudes and simply as many are into guys who’re assured sufficient of their masculinity to embrace their softer and extra female aspect.
(And that’s earlier than we even get into the talk of gender being a spectrum fairly than a binary.)
You might be who you’re. When you like who you’re? Then rock on, and individuals who don’t prefer it or assume you’re doing “manhood” fallacious can fuck off into the solar.
Good luck.
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Pricey Dr. NerdLove: I’ve a query that’s much less about ought to I keep or go however extra about whether or not it’s price ready for somebody or not.
I (26,M) have been casually seeing “Summer” (28,F) casually for about eight months. Summer time and I had been mates for years and we’ve all the time had an voiceless attraction to one another. Our mates had been pushing at us so far as a result of based on them, they have been getting uninterested in watching two individuals who clearly have been into one another by no means doing something about it. The timing was by no means proper for it to occur and for a very long time, Summer time was really concerned with another person, so it’s not like something might have occurred anyway.
To make an extended backstory brief, Summer time’s boyfriend (“Tom”) was a judgmental prick who did his greatest to maintain her away from all of her mates, gaslighting her and making an attempt to persuade her that I (and her different mates however largely me) have been making an attempt to interrupt them up as a result of I needed to be together with her as an alternative. This was half-true; I used to be all for her, however I by no means made a transfer on her, by no means hinted at her leaving him for me, and I’m not the man who’s going to go round badmouthing individuals’s companions anyway.
Finally, Summer time realized what a prick Tom was and there was a chronic break up that happened over the course of a yr. He dragged it out for so long as he might, apparently simply to be a jerk about it, and it left Summer time in a nasty state.
Some time after the break up was closing, Summer time and I ended up sleeping collectively one evening. It wasn’t a deliberate factor and we weren’t on something like a date. We have been hanging out as a result of she had been having a nasty week and want cheering up, we had a pair drinks and we ended up falling into mattress collectively. The following morning, we talked about it. We have been each stunned that it occurred, however we each agreed that it was a great factor and that we needed it to occur once more.
Over the course of the following a number of months, Summer time and I might exit on dates and finish the evening both at her place or mine. We have been making an attempt to maintain it from our mates due to drama that got here up throughout her break up and since Summer time’s a non-public particular person, so we’ve needed to be cautious about the place we go collectively and the way we act in public. Whereas I like seeing Summer time, I’m form of uninterested in our dynamic. I’d like one thing extra open and critical together with her and never having to sneak round. I recognize that she’s a non-public one that doesn’t like individuals realizing an excessive amount of about her enterprise, and actually, at first having this secret affair was horny and enjoyable. However this association is beginning to really feel stifling to me.
On paper, it feels like every part ought to be nice, proper? The issue is that the break up and all of the crap that her ex pulled whereas they have been collectively made Summer time understand that she’d been actually neglecting her personal life and she or he needs to give attention to getting issues on observe. She not too long ago moved into a brand new place with a number of maintenance, she’s trying into going again to highschool half time to pursue a brand new diploma to assist her advance in her profession whereas nonetheless working, and this doesn’t go away her with a number of time. On high of every part, her break up with Tom has made her severely rethink what she needs from relationships, her personal sexuality (she could be demi) and whether or not she’s even able to date once more.
Once we’ve talked about the potential of being an precise couple, she requested me what giving our relationship a label would really imply and why it will be totally different from what we had. I informed her that it will imply that at issues have been transferring in the direction of some type of future as an alternative of this nebulous “whatever happens” factor we’ve got. She informed me that she wasn’t certain what she might see in any future as a result of she’s nonetheless making an attempt to determine her current, so this was all she might provide for now and she or he hoped that I used to be pleased with this. She made it clear that she wasn’t seeing anybody else and never all for pursuing issues with anybody else, however I shouldn’t think about myself locked down by her and I ought to be happy to see different individuals if I needed to.
I do know this feels like I used to be getting disregarded, however we’re nonetheless seeing one another once we can. It’s not as usually as I’d like, and lately I’m feeling like there’s a ways between us. I don’t know if that’s actual or only a matter of my being pissed off, nevertheless it appears like I’m being held at arm’s size, however she swears she’s not making an attempt to do this. We speak often, however making an attempt to schedule time in particular person to do greater than seize a fast lunch or dinner is a wrestle and we haven’t had intercourse in a few months now.
I do know she genuinely likes me and I actually like her as nicely. We now have a good time once we can get collectively, nevertheless it appears like these are additional and additional aside as she’s pursuing issues and she or he’s been easy about not having the ability to give me any type of timeline when she’d be more likely to know what she needs or can provide me the form of relationship I would like.
I don’t wish to finish issues as a result of I actually like what we’ve got, when we’ve got it, and I haven’t met anybody else I like as a lot as her. I simply want there have been extra. I hate feeling like a grimy little secret, and it’s irritating not having the ability to see her and feeling like there’s this distance. Is it time for me to surrender and transfer on, or is it price sticking issues out and giving her extra time and hoping for issues to vary?
500 Extra Days Of Summer time
This can be a powerful one, 5MDS, and I really feel for you. Whereas I’m somebody who advocates for taking motion as an alternative of ready and hoping for somebody to vary their thoughts, the actual fact is that typically there actually aren’t any new actions to take.
Generally it actually comes all the way down to how badly you need this and what you’re keen to endure within the course of, with an understanding that it might nonetheless by no means work the way in which you hoped.
I’ve had relationships the place I needed greater than what the opposite particular person did or might give, so imagine me, I perceive that frustration. I’ve additionally been in conditions like yours, the place somebody informed me, straight up, what they have been and weren’t in a position to give, and I hung in as a result of I figured if the selection was between “what we have now” and “nothing”, I selected “what we have” and hoped that I might cling in lengthy sufficient for issues to vary… and in a pair circumstances after I was youthful, hoping that perhaps I might change their thoughts.
Spoiler alert: this not often labored the way in which I’d hoped.
Right here’s the factor, 5MDS: you’ve had the dialog. You’ve laid out what you need and what you’d wish to see this relationship be. Summer time’s informed you the place she’s at, and it feels like she’s been easy with you about what she needs and what she’s in a position to give. That’s in the end the bounds of what you are able to do; every part else goes to be about whether or not you’re keen to roll the cube on this understanding the way in which you hope.
I’m going to make an ungainly and inelegant metaphor, however follow me for a second. Consider what you could have with Summer time as equal of a dangerous funding. There’s an opportunity at a giant pay-off on the finish – a dedicated, critical relationship together with her – however the odds are lengthy and the quantity you’d be risking (time, emotional power, missed alternatives) is critical. You’re going to be coping with a number of potential turbulence within the meantime, the place issues are going to really feel like perhaps you’re watching your funding about to crater and it’d be higher to tug out and settle for your losses as an alternative of risking the lack of much more. You need to weigh what you understand – what Summer time has stated, how she’s behaving and the way it’s making you are feeling – in opposition to what you imagine and what you hope for. You are feeling such as you’re being stored at arm’s size and also you’re getting pissed off; are you going to take that as indicators that perhaps she’s slow-walking you out of this situationship, or are you taking her at her phrase that she likes you however circumstances aren’t favorable proper now?
There’re a number of people who’d make all the same old noises, both telling you HODL (maintain on for pricey life) or to acknowledge the sunk-cost fallacy for what it’s and bail. But it surely’s straightforward for different individuals to inform you what to do; it’s hypothetical for them. They don’t have the precise funding on this that you simply do. So the large query actually does come all the way down to: how badly would you like this and the way a lot religion do you could have that this may repay ultimately?
With reference to Summer time herself, I believe she’s enjoying you straight. She’s going via some critical life modifications and people require a critical funding of her time and power. It is sensible to me that she doesn’t have as a lot free time to see you if she’s having to work on her home and she or he’s making an attempt to work and pursue a level. And if she is demisexual, the truth that you’ve been and are apparently nonetheless sleeping collectively means that she feels shut and related to you. So I don’t assume she’s making an attempt to wave you off or passively-aggressively making an attempt to finish issues. That’s all good.
However that doesn’t assure you a cheerful ending. This can be a state of affairs that not solely has no finish date in sight, however one which additionally isn’t more likely to be static and secure your complete means via. Signing up for this implies signing up for potential turbulence and larger challenges the longer you wait. The percentages are good that, as she will get nearer to assembly the necessities for a brand new diploma, she’s going to have much less time than she does now. There’s additionally each probability of chaos getting into the equation – she loses her present job, she discovers that her new place wants extra work than she thought beforehand or a few of the fixes come again round to chunk her within the ass. There’s additionally each probability that, as she will get additional alongside on this journey, she realizes that what she needs from life has modified too… and that will imply that her emotions for you alter, too.
There’s additionally the chance that you simply may discover that your emotions change. The frustration will get to be an excessive amount of, you are feeling uncared for (even unintentionally) otherwise you merely don’t have sufficient significant time collectively to maintain issues going. That’s all the time a risk too.
So, in the end, the query turns into: how snug are you with the dangers that you simply’re dealing with? Are you keen to speculate the time and emotional power in Summer time, with the understanding that there’s no clock to attend out and no assure that this may ever repay? What stage of frustration are you keen to just accept? Recreation this out in your head: how lengthy would you be keen to remain on this relationship for those who knew that nothing would change and this was the established order from now going ahead? A yr? Six months? Six weeks? Is what you presently have sufficient to speculate time in that you’ll by no means get again?
Alternately, you would belief in that what makes you proper for each other now will means you’ll nonetheless be proper sooner or later. Do you are feeling robust sufficient in what you two share that you simply’re keen to place it on pause after which circle again round to 1 one other when issues are much less chaotic and extra settled? Are you keen to make as dangerous a selection that you simply and she is going to each be single and nonetheless down the road when she’s bought the emotional bandwidth and obtainable time for a relationship? Or are you holding on to what you could have now since you fear that for those who let go, she’ll discover another person? I can inform you from expertise that when somebody says “this is all I can give at the moment”, it stings much more once they remind you of that whilst you’re making your closing plea for extra.
I don’t imply to suggest that you simply don’t have hope, merely that you simply’re enjoying lengthy odds, whichever means you select. You’re the one who has to determine whether or not what you could have now could be price what you’re giving up in trade, as a result of there isn’t any assure that it is going to be greater than this. If the extent of threat and frustration is inside what you’re in a position to deal with, then holding on doesn’t look like the worst possibility. However regardless, you’ll wish to go into this along with your eyes open and an understanding of what you’re signing up for. You’re in the end the one one who can determine whether or not it’s price it.
Good luck.
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This submit was beforehand printed on Doctornerdlove.com and is republished on Medium.
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